Halo: Reach trailer

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Jonah Falcon

2009-12-13 16:06:56 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Tom

2009-12-13 16:12:33 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

I don't understand why MS (or any dev for that matter) puts out "in-game"
footage, as if that is how the game will look when being played. Same thing
was done with Halo 3 and we all know how that looked.

Jonah Falcon

2009-12-13 16:28:13 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.

Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.

Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.

Nick Soapdish, Jr.

2009-12-13 18:09:33 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.
Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.
Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Wow. You really are like some sort of man-child. How old are you?
You're so worked up about it, that it's almost like someone insulted
your mother......but it's just a game. Never mind that many reviewers
noted that Halo 3 was a bit behind the curve in graphics. Never mind
that I've played, and still own, the game, and agree that there's a
fair amount of graphical elements that are outdated. Your response is
the sign of a very immature person, whose own insecurities prompt him
to lash out in an accusatory, childish and angry fashion when someone
dares disagree with his opinion on frickin' VIDEO GAMES.

In other words, were you dropped on your head as a child?

Mark Johnson

2009-12-13 21:17:53 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.
Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.
Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.

WTF is wrong with you?

Number 1: Tom is not a PS3 fanboy, if I remember rightly, he only owns a 360

Number 2: You ask for "Opinions", but when someone say's their "Opinion" on
it and its not to your liking, you attack them.

Well guess what? This Halo looks only slightly better than Halo 3. Isn't
this new one meant to be using the new engine?
because if it is, then the 360 has been MAXED out!
As for the dialogue, I couldn't stop laughing my ass off. Did they hire
porno movie writers to write it? Talk about cheezy.

Oh on a last note, you saying "A good example is the final scene on a
warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible"
What a crock of shit!! You really don't know what you are talking about.

The alMIGHTY N

2009-12-14 15:19:30 UTC

Post by Mark Johnson

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.
Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.
Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.

Halo: Reach, like ODST, uses an enhanced version of the Halo 3 engine,
which itself is an enhanced version of the Halo 2 engine, which itself
is an enhanced version of the Halo engine.

Bungie has never written a truly new engine for their Halo series. One
could argue that they don't need to since gamers are still suckling
from their teat of monotony and loving it.

Post by Mark Johnson
because if it is, then the 360 has been MAXED out!
As for the dialogue, I couldn't stop laughing my ass off. Did they hire
porno movie writers to write it? Talk about cheezy.
Oh on a last note, you saying "A good example is the final scene on a
warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible"
What a crock of shit!! You really don't know what you are talking about.

It's interesting that he would refer to that game. I myself don't know
whether Killzone 2's engine could or could not do a similar scene
although I imagine that if they wanted the developers could probably
have dropped the quality of the models by 50% (which would still look
a shitload better than Halo 3's models) and expanded the environment.

On the other hand, Uncharted and Uncharted 2 both feature "wide open
spaces" and both look exponentially better than Halo 3 does.

Tom

2009-12-14 11:13:27 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.
Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.
Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.

Let me 'splain something to you, no enhancing of an in-engine console video,
is going to make the video that kind of reality when it finally happen as a
video game without the hardware to run it. Halo3's ads fostered no such
benchmarks one iota during the reality of its release! Your fanboyism knows
no limits with your PS3 comment. As usual, your comment about anyone who
bashed Halo 3's looks, mean they never played it, just doesn't hold water,
only because your statement goes right along your own defense of anything
360, that's all. I guess when you apologize, in the same context, about me
never having played ME when it came out, would fit right in with this latest
comment by you.

If that video would be any indications of actual gameplay graphics, then
Crysis woud near pale in comparison, and you know there's no console that
can come close to putting out those graphics. Gears 1 & 2, KZ2, CODMW and
MW2, even B:BC beats the crap out of Halo3's graphics by a long margin. I
would be insanity to even mention the U:DFs in the same breath as
comparison, because, at least U:DF (from my experience) that beats them all,
hands down

The alMIGHTY N

2009-12-14 15:13:40 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Looked fantastic. Let me 'splain something to you, and I'll try not to
use big words: Halo 3 used advanced HDR to make it look interesting.
The Halo 3 trailer used ALL IN-GAME ASSETS. And Halo 3 looked
beautiful. It's not a corridor shooter like Gears of War and some
other PS3 shooters I could name, with illusions of openness. Halo 3 is
like Half-Life 2 in that it uses WIDE OPEN spaces. A good example is
the final scene on a warthog. Killzone 2 couldn't do something like
that without having a framerate of 2 or 3. It's simply impossible.
Anyone who bashes Halo 3's graphics simply didn't play it. It's as
simple as that.
Halo: Reach is going to be the best selling game of the year, as well
as the most popular online shooter as well. Nothing a PS3 fanboy like
you can do to change it.

Aside from the fact that you're a kettle calling a pot black when you
accuse someone of being a fanboy, your accusation is completely
idiotic when Tom is constantly talking about *XBOX 360* games he
plays. Does Tom even *own* a PlayStation 3?

Second, the very fact that Halo Reach uses the same engine as Halo 3
means that it won't look much better than Halo 3, which, for anyone
who doesn't have their tongue shoved far up Microsoft's ass, means
that it won't look great.

There isn't a single reputable reviewer who would say that Halo 3
looked better, as good or anywhere even near as good as the *first*
Gears of War.

And the flipside to Halo 3 doing all that "wide open" "draw distance"
nonsense that you talk about is that Halo 3's actual models - you
know, the things that most gamers actually *notice* - are low quality
enough to be mistaken for last-generation graphics.

I *still* remember when I first turned on the game and saw all the
human soldiers looking for Master Chief's crash point. The models
looked - and still look - HORRIBLE.

The alMIGHTY N

2009-12-14 15:04:28 UTC

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GameTrailers posted the official video - and the trailer is all in-
engine.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/59812.html

Many trailers, preview videos and cutscenes are "in-engine." Few games
in action ever look like those because when those are created, the
engine doesn't have to worry about most of what happens during a game.

Don't be fooled into thinking that Halo Reach will look significantly
better than Halo 3. It, like ODST, is using the same engine as Halo 3
with just a few enhancements so the game will basically look like
ODST, which didn't look much better than Halo 3.

BoodyBandit

2009-12-14 14:10:50 UTC

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Opinions?
I was bored to tears and as usual the game is over hyped drivel.
I doubt it will be the best graphics on the 360 when Reach is released
and it won't even come close to PS3 exclusive graphics.
Once again MS is all about the hype and marketing. This game will sell
because of marketing and the kiddies like it. It is just an okay
shooter and a dated one at that.
I, like ODST, wont be picking it up.

The alMIGHTY N

2009-12-14 15:22:39 UTC

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I beg to differ. Halo Reach looks a LOT cooler than ODST. It has more
of a modern warfare (and I don't mean the game of that name) feel to
it. It feels less like Star Wars and more like Aliens.

Of course, that's just the trailer, in which they could put all sorts
of nonsense that has nothing to do with the game itself (remember the
Halo 3 trailers with the kid looking up at the sky).

Still, it did its job because I'm actually interested in playing a
Spartan again despite the mind numbingly retardedness of Halo 3.

Tom

2009-12-14 16:25:34 UTC

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I don't think that Halo Reach will come close to the better looking games
period, on either system, even Gears smoked it graphically and I shouldn't
even mention Halo 3 in the same breath graphically as Gears. MW1 and 2 shits
over over Halo 3 graphicallt and I just don't see Halo Reach being much
better, though I am excited about getting the game because of the storyline
roots. I heard all about ODST being better in graphics, and after seeing it
on a buddies 360, I was totally unimpressed, it looks the same to me.

Nick Soapdish, Jr.

2009-12-14 23:25:56 UTC

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My hope is that, unlike ODST, this wasn't intended to be a lower-
priced expansion that "magically" became a full retail-price product,
after the marketing and accounting guys had a talk with Bungie. So,
we'll see if the reviews indicate it's a return to the original Halo's
level of quality, campaignwise, and a return to the relative level of
cutting edge graphics (that, I'm not so sure will happen, but hey).
I'm much more likely to get this one, as opposed to Halo 3: ODST
(Fleecing Edition). I rather like the clean look of the Halo series,
as while some would call it generic, I'd say it has a hi-tech art
style of its own. However, the series is getting long in the tooth,
and needs to get back to having an equal balance of campaign and
multiplayer quality. I don't even care if Halo:Reach isn't
innovative; I just want a well-rounded, fulfilling game.
Unfortunately, the trailer doesn't give me any impression as to how
gameplay will actually look.

As far as Jonah's 14-year old-esque promises that "this is teh
greatest game yet and will sell more than Super Mario Bros. and GTA IV
combined!!!!!!! The PS3 could never do this, ever!!!!!".........well,
Killzone 2 does have a couple of maps that are fairly big.
Resistance 2 has some _extremely_ Halo-styled levels that rely on open
environments and large-scale combat. Uncharted 2 has some really vast
areas. I'm pretty sure Jonah has never played any of these games;
after all, he's the chump that claims Uncharted 2 is no more than a
Gears of War ripoff, which pretty much shows he's never played it.
What irks me about Jonah is that there are people out there who'd like
an honest opinion to base their game-buying decision. He comes around
with his fanboyish mentality, and talks as though he has some
authority because a website allows him to write stuff for free. Of
course, it's clear he just says things even if they have no basis in
fact or even a basis in a well-reasoned opinion. All it does is murk
up (or (blig)Merk up?????) their decisionmaking process, and possibly
ignore games that are good, simply because Jonah either bashes them,
or praises them (if they decided his opinion is worthless).

Ugh.

Tom

2009-12-15 01:09:12 UTC

Post by Nick Soapdish, Jr.

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Well, I have no expectations that Reach will have better graphics and if it
doesn't, I won't be disappointed. If it does have better graphics, then it
will go above my expectations. I am just hoping that it has the story and
gameplay of the first Halo, only with a deep prequel storyline; that is what
I am looking forward to most. I didn't even give ODST a second though at a
purchase. The fact that it had Halo3 in its title turned me off.
I admit I am stoked for Halo 3 and I bet it will be a good game.

Post by Nick Soapdish, Jr.
As far as Jonah's 14-year old-esque promises that "this is teh
greatest game yet and will sell more than Super Mario Bros. and GTA IV
combined!!!!!!! The PS3 could never do this, ever!!!!!".........well,
Killzone 2 does have a couple of maps that are fairly big.
Resistance 2 has some _extremely_ Halo-styled levels that rely on open
environments and large-scale combat. Uncharted 2 has some really vast
areas. I'm pretty sure Jonah has never played any of these games;
after all, he's the chump that claims Uncharted 2 is no more than a
Gears of War ripoff, which pretty much shows he's never played it.
What irks me about Jonah is that there are people out there who'd like
an honest opinion to base their game-buying decision. He comes around
with his fanboyish mentality, and talks as though he has some
authority because a website allows him to write stuff for free. Of
course, it's clear he just says things even if they have no basis in
fact or even a basis in a well-reasoned opinion. All it does is murk
up (or (blig)Merk up?????) their decisionmaking process, and possibly
ignore games that are good, simply because Jonah either bashes them,
or praises them (if they decided his opinion is worthless).
Ugh.

In an ever changing world, Jonah remains a constant.

The alMIGHTY N

2009-12-14 15:01:35 UTC